Latest Episode of Bohmian Dialogues

Attuning to the Sacred and Profane: Care Ethics, Quantum Physics and Its Relevance to Relational Practice

This is a recorded conversation from March 2, 2026 between Sara Ekenstierna and Mike Chitty for Sara’s “Bohmian Dialogues Podcast,” exploring creative forms of being and shared realities through a quantum physics- and process philosophy lens. Mike, an experienced facilitator and consultant, discusses how conventional managerial approaches often miss the deeper relational nature of human experience, suggesting instead that we emerge from and participate in larger relational fields rather than simply “applying tools” to “separate entities”. Sara and Mike explore concepts including entanglement in physics; the implicate order in David Bohm’s philosophy; and the therapeutic “third” in relationships, while examining how organizations often suppress human creativity and wonder in favor of efficiency and control. The conversation touched on how care ethics might offer alternative approaches to leadership and organizational development, emphasizing presence, patience, surrender, and authentic engagement over problem-solving and fixed outcomes.